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cityblue
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Red Turd(sorry it's a local joke you may not understand) said :Furthermore, I hope you get one of the following (if not all) of the implications on this matter, applied...
*Banned from Europe (for 2008/09 season) - I think technically this is not possible unless they decide to take away the Welsh Cup and then watch the proverbial hit the fan.
*6 points deducted for next season - again I am not sure this technically possible as it is a FAW matter and not an WPL one.
*£15k fine (remember Porthmadog had a heavy fine applied for a lesser crime)!!! - this muddies the water considerably as Port should not have been fined in the first place. However as far as I understand it they were fined as they organised the game so in respect of the Final do they therefore fine themselves or Newtown.
I guess we will be fined but let's wait and see.
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kerz
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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to be completely fair, the fine Porth actually got was 1k after their appeal
Personally I hope Llanelli get:
* a spaceship landing on their pitch making all burn holes where it lands
*itchy new shirts for next season
* not very nice cups of tea in the canteen
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Red Turk

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 197 Location: Llanelli
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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To be fair, that sum your type up quite well...
As you say lets wait and see.
However, let me reiterate one thing... On a 'fairly recent posting' I said to the words/ effect of... I would have supported Bangor in the final if Llanelli weren't there, as I quite like them and they haven't have silverware in a wee while... Case still stands (apart from the liking - your alright now) - lol.
I do think I verbal-diarrhea got the better of me as I honestly posted STRAIGHT after the incident. However, the punishment I would yield still stands and I'm saying that as openly as I can (obviously clouded by some Turk [local banter - get it now] truths).
You won 4-0, well done... not a problem with that, you looked the fitter and stronger team and with Nico crap tactics we lost... However, best supporters in Wales????????????????? Another thread I think is needed here! lol.
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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 117
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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The whole issue calls into question how serious the FAW are as a national organisation affiliated to UEFA. Had that action happened during an UEFA Cup-tie, then the club would certainly have been thrown out of the Cup and the tie awarded to the other club. The FAW, as an affiliated national organisation, should do the same.
We all know however that they won't. They'll bottle it. As a process, it stinks. As a result, it's for the good cos
1) Would be unfair on the genuine fans
2) Bangor made it a good final
3) Giving it to the opponents, Llanelli, just means losing a UEFA Cup place as they already qualify for the CL. This UEFA Cup place is for the CW, not for league position, and UEFA would not accept a losing semi-finalist.
4) Dunno about the officials bothered about the prize money, but no "rubbing of hands" among Rhyl fans thinking of the prospect of backdoor entry to UEFA Cup. Would much rather be playing in Dublin than another Baltic trip, in fact a large proportion of us have already booked tickets, hostels, planes or boats.
Worst casualty of all this will be further devaluing of the Cup with more tns-carmarthen type finals in a hollow racecourse. _________________ Syni Rhyl - Cartre Stadiwm 3000 y Gogledd
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cityblue
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Posts: 58
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Surprisingly I agree with much of what you say but I think that the decision to throw us out of the cup could only have been taken if the game had been abandoned but on the day the officials took the decision to proceed.
In agreeing that Rhyl, along with others, would be rubbing their hands I was not suggesting you would want to take the UEFA place but rather enjoying our predicament.
Sadly I agree wholeheartedly with your final statement about future venues.
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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 117
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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More or less agreed then and I hope, for the sake of the genuine fans (cos I know how we'd feel if it happened to us), that you still carry the flag in Europe. Just 2 points tho -
1) I suspect that the decision to continue was on police advice in controlling potential public disorder. I have no way of knowing but the film shows Southall and the police conferring for a good while.
2) On this occasion, not even taking delight in your predicament. An event of this nature goes beyond the normal mischievous rivalry and makes all of us think. _________________ Syni Rhyl - Cartre Stadiwm 3000 y Gogledd
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Red Turk

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 197 Location: Llanelli
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Ioio - in fairness, you have spoken wisely. However, 'if' the cup was taken away (doubt it - although it would carry a good statement to the rest of the league and an example for the future).
I wouldn't want to be handed the cup, seeing how great the game was even if we lost, to be apart of it was amazing and we lost and I want it to stay like that... Therefore, with Rhyl already all booked up for the Intertoto, then I would say NEWPORT YMCA for UEFA Cup!!! They deserve it  lol.
If FAW bottle it (or WPL whoever interviens first), would you think someone from above (possibly god) would step in?
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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 117
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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No-one in authority wants to stir anything - least of all UEFA who don't want to be reminded of Wales and all the hassle. There will just be a quiet fine...and of course a dangerous precedent, tho it's only dangerous if there are others who do the same in the future.
btw UEFA don't accept semi-filalists, even from the YMCA !! _________________ Syni Rhyl - Cartre Stadiwm 3000 y Gogledd
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Dog
Joined: 28 Oct 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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It's sad that the "moral majority" from Rhyl and Llanelli were on this site so quickly demanding that Bangor be thrown out of Europe. Grow up lads.
As somebody who doesn't support any WPL club, or have any axe to grind with any either, I wish Bangor City the best of luck representing Cymru in Europe next season. The Cup was won fair and square and Bangor's excellent supporters deserve their glory.
Llongyfarchiadau Bangor, a dymuniadau gorau yn Ewrop tymor nesaf.
(Cefnogwr Tref Dinbych).
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markthebuilder
Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 85 Location: bangor
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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thans dog, someone neutral with a bit of sense.was talking to some of the newtown fans who watched the final and they said llanelli blew and were trying to get the match abandoned cos they knew they couldnt beat us! all i can say the best team won the cup on the day and we didnt lose to them all season! _________________ nevs blue farrar road army
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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 117
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Dog wrote: |
It's sad that the "moral majority" from Rhyl and Llanelli were on this site so quickly demanding that Bangor be thrown out of Europe. Grow up lads.
(Cefnogwr Tref Dinbych). |
Simple fact is that if they did that in the UEFA Cup then they would be thrown out of Europe straight away with or without your congrats.
Mae rhai pethe - dim llawer - yn bwysicach na phel-droed _________________ Syni Rhyl - Cartre Stadiwm 3000 y Gogledd
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Counting Crows Site Admin

Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 154 Location: Caerdydd
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not too sure about this assumption that a team would be thrown out of the Europe on the basis of a pitch invasion / player confrontation.
I mean, Celtic weren't thrown out after that 'fan' 'tapped' Dida...
I know the situations are different, but what is the magic number of pitch invaders that would incur a ban? _________________ Come on the Crows!
www.crows-online.co.uk
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port
Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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it's about time the welsh fa took action against bangor.it happens every time porthmadog play at bangor,aswell as against caernarfon+rhyl.so to say it was a one off is a bit of a liberty from bangor fans.
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kerz
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| it's about time the welsh fa took action against bangor.it happens every time porthmadog play at bangor,aswell as against caernarfon+rhyl.so to say it was a one off is a bit of a liberty from bangor fans. |
you took your time joining in the witchhunt son, did it take two months to learn how to write?
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ioio
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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have the fa sorted it out yet ? To be honest, it's unfair on bangor to leave it hanging over them _________________ Syni Rhyl - Cartre Stadiwm 3000 y Gogledd
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