I read this article and though is this the best solution to summerfootball?
http://www.welsh-premier.com/article.php?ID=50.

I'm all for summerfootball, but dubt it'll ever happen, but do think that clubs need the extra football in the summer months to gain fitness and competition prior to Euro game and having the league cup or Irish/ Welsh comp would be key to Euro glory (or getting one or two rounds close to glory)...

Assuming we stay with winter football, and assuming our clubs still face the same countries in the preliminary draws, then some form of preparation tournament is probably the best way to give the participating clubs that edge that might just see them staop conceding in the last quarter of legs...

I mean, 3 of the 4 clubs went out on away goals this season. Better match fitness and sharpness is bound to help.

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Where's the option,

Rhyl Rejoin the English system

No one will like it but I feel it's people following their pet hates that stop us getting to where we all want to be.

- Let the Exiles back into the Welsh Cup. They are all better supported than most of us and command by far the majority of Welsh football fans. Get us back in contention with them, give us some legitimacy and get us in the limelight expanding our audience beyond locals, nationalists and exile fans that care to take a look and have a chuckle.

-Split the league in two. Have North and South sections comprise of 10 teams playing eachother 4 times in total. Have the top 4 sides from each entered into a summer play-off for the title of Welsh Champion.

-All games to be played on Sunday.

-Financial incentives for little things. Every crowd over 1000. Half the season gone with no red cards.

-Endevour towards the fan. Spend money on getting every club to have a good bar to attract more locals rather than inventing capacity for the unattending locals.

-Apply for our teams to join the FA Trophy. Make it interesting churning up the sort of opposition we might face.

As for preperation for potential European games, leave that down to individual clubs pre-seasons, whats the point of altering the entire shape of Welsh football so as to keep the fitness of full time English based TNS up to scratch.

Ask yourselves what's the point of this league and the clubs within it. It should be to obtain as entertaining and high quality football as possible for the entertainment of the local community imo. Right now I'd argue its a manic search to justify our existance in contrast to England. To prove we're good and big by building large stadiums and banning those who don't agree with us or are better than us. This league needs rethinking as it has a monumental chip on it's shoulder having been founded on the spite of the 90's court cases.

Do people want good football? or an expression of Welsh nationalism? becuase right now the majority of Welsh football fans don't give a damn about us and are off watching better football.

I like the idea of allowing the exiles back into the Welsh Cup - drawing Cardiff for a cup quarter final etc. certainly whets the appitite. However, how would the FAW go about re-allocating the UEFA Cup spot? The exiles can't play in Europe via Welsh pyramid, which would bring into question how seriously they'd take it. About at seriously as they take the Premier Cup no doubt...

I personnally believe splitting the national league into two regional ones would be a bad idea. When the Crows were in the WPL, i enjoyed the away trips to Bangor/Caernarfon/Rhyl. Just my weird sense of fun i guess

Sunday games sound interesting...i know the missus would be happier! But clubs can do this themselves if their opponents agree it...

There are a lot of things that need changing or trying, but can the power-that-be be bothered? Is there an incentive for the FAW to improve thier domestic league? Er, nope.

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Pointless inviting them back in if there's no European qualification, as Swansea and particularly Cardiff would carry on fielding 2nd string sides.

Get them back in and allow them European qualification, they won't be allowed to represent England in Europe so they've got to be allowed an avenue somewhere. Then at the same time refuse TNS European qualification from Wales as they are an English club!

I like it!

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Letting those clubs who decided they want to play in the English Leagues join in the Welsh Cup is a non-starter and I wouldn't support it.
Sure they are going to send their first teams to a third round fixture at Pwllheli or Dinas Powys wet and windy Saturday in November. They would send what they thought would get them through and they would have no inclination to put out their best side cos they would only join if it's beneficial to themselves and sod everybody else.
TNS/Oswestry have opted to play and remain in the Welsh system and the issue of their locationand to suggest they should not be allowed in the Welsh Cup is ridiculous, particularly coming from somebody who supports a club whose supporters, players and officials who have talked so much about a return to the lowere levels of the English leagues.

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Letting those clubs who decided they want to play in the English Leagues join in the Welsh Cup is a non-starter and I wouldn't support it. Sure they are going to send their first teams to a third round fixture at Pwllheli or Dinas Powys wet and windy Saturday in November. They would send what they thought would get them through and they would have no inclination to put out their best side cos they would only join if it's beneficial to themselves and sod everybody else. TNS/Oswestry have opted to play and remain in the Welsh system and the issue of their locationand to suggest they should not be allowed in the Welsh Cup is ridiculous, particularly coming from somebody who supports a club whose supporters, players and officials who have talked so much about a return to the lowere levels of the English leagues.

A Welsh FA Cup implies that it's a cup involving all clubs in the Welsh FA. I don't see what right anyone has to say that fellow members of this Welsh FA aren't allowed in because they aren't part of a certain division. What you want and what we have is a cup of all the teams who subscribe to the unsuccesful Welsh Premier system. Even including English clubs as long as they subscribe to the said system. It's a narrow minded reaction to this league getting snubbed over a decade ago and it's harming the progress and distorting the direction of this league and its clubs imo.

Also do you not think that Cardiff reserves would offer a hell of a tougher test on the pitch than the teams Dinas Powys play usually? Do you not think the name of playing Cardiff would draw a bigger crowd even if its just city fans? Hell even if you get one of the small exiles like Newport, do you not think the players of Dinas Powys would relish playing them in front of 1000+? or that Dinas Powys' coffers would turn down the 200+ away support they'd bring? And that's only one of the small ones let alone your league sides.

I never said that TNS should be refused a place in the Welsh Cup, what i said was that as an English club, which is what they clearly now are, they should be refused the right to represent Wales in Europe.

If the English FA have refused Cardiff & co the right to represent England in Europe because they are Welsh, why should an English club be allowed to represent the Welsh nation.

As far as I know that matter was dealt with in the 1870s and would have been considered by the FAW when they rightly or wrobngly agreed to the merger between TNS and Oswestry.

It was and the official Welsh FA line is the one about Oswestry being founder members of the Welsh FA but I'm pretty sure Wrexham were there in the early years too.

Don't care what the FA and their Harris/TNS suck up committee think. Park Hall's in England and in my opinion shouldn't be staging Welsh European games

would it make any difference if tns moved the ground a few miles

So Craig as some of Chester's ground is inWales they should play some games in the Welsh Cup.

They used to, why not?