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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
Posts: 97
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 5:12 pm |
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Not bothered watching ET in the Cup Final. Some things are more important than football scores. I don't think have we ever before seen a pitch invasion with fans assaulting 2 players. Doesn't matter what sort of physical injuries there were or not, it's not right that the Llanelli players should have to play on in front of idiots like that. Had that happened in the UEFA Cup, then Bangor would have been thrown out of the competition. Presumably the only reason that Southall didn't abandon the game was - on police advice - for fear of violent public disorder. Bangor MUST now be banned by the Welsh FA from representing us in the UEFA Cup, even tho it means we lose a representative this year. Any less sanction and a massive precedent is set. No problem at all with exhuberant pitch invasion after a game - assulting opposing players is a completely different matter.
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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:00 pm |
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Only thing I'd say for bangor is maybe the idiots were the "glory-day" supporters who turn out p1sd for a big game once every 3 years and never support the club at farrar rd. Sanctions would be hard then on the genuine fans, but you can't let a precedent like that stand.
Maybe the fair-minded bangor fans like mark and AB could let us know if the idiots were genuine fans or not. If they aren't, then I would genuinely feel sorry for proper bangor fans and know how we would feel if supposedly rhyl fans did the same thing. Only experience we've had is a streaker - which doesn't affect anyone but himself (night in cells), but this is a whole different ball game and must be stopped.
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Anglesey Blue
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 49
Location: Bangor |
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:46 am |
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I'm in a bit of a hurry today, so can't post a full reply. But to partly answer your question ioio, I have never seen a single one of the pitch invaders at Farrar Road before, and most probably never will again. Amongst them was a bloke trying to start Cardiff City songs throughout the first half, and others who were so drunk they could hardly stand up.
The club needs to find out who they are, and ban them for life. Not that it will affect them mind, as they don't come down anyway.
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ioio
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
Posts: 97
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:59 am |
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Understood.
Hopefully there's some way of taking serious action which doesn't desperately disappoint innocent parties
Am be mae'n werth, debyg iawn na bydd hi ddim yn brob fawr achos neith yr FAW gladdu'u pennau yn y tywod. Ond mae cynsail peryg iawn wedi'i gosod.
Siwr o fod nath Roberts a Legg ddim cael unrhyw anaf, ond mi gawson nhw sgytwad. Doedd hi ddim yn deg disgwyl iddyn nhw barhau i chwarae.
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Red Turk
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 152
Location: Llanelli |
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:00 pm |
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Just watched the game that dad recorded for me, although I feel liberated from being in Amsterdam the weekend, I am totally shocked & embarrassed to be Welsh (because it includes the City of Bangor)!!!
No offense to Rhyl fans, but I would have expected something along those lines from them (being stereotypical) - however, in playing Rhyl 5 times this season I would say they are a passionate supporter(s) who like they football and only show anger towards Bangor and after the game I just saw, I can see why!
The Bangor fans on here seem to be 'alright' - however, I'm surprised the game went on... The game should have been abandoned after the 90mins, failing that - the FA Cup should be canceled for 2007/08 and no-one awarded and Rhyl given the UEFA Cup entry and Bangor dis-possessed.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN FOOTBALL FOR WHAT I JUST SAW... I was so angered that I couldn't watch any further and went online to find out the FT score! Plus 6 point deducted for next season (awful) and then Nev coming out and saying they have the best supporters in WPL!!! Bull Ship!!!! The TNS stewards mentioned to the Reds supporters that he was surprised that Llanelli Fans turned out in high numbers because TNS fans would have stayed away from the Northwalians!!!
DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!
Hope the FAW do act quickly and VERY harshly!!!!
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leroy180
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
Posts: 51
Location: Ceredigion |
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:17 pm |
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I am gutted I didnt get the chance 2 watch the game heard it was a cracker. Shame about the drunken idiots 2 spoil it 4 everybody.
In my opinion Bangor should not take part in the UEFA Cup. THROW THEM OUT!!!!!! They are a absolute disgrace to Welsh Football.
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Anglesey Blue
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 49
Location: Bangor |
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:44 pm |
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Oh, be serious. Kick out of Europe? Yes, what a great idea. Let a few people who turn up on Cup Final day, pissed, spoil it for everyone associated with the club and work hard all year travelling up and down Wales. What trouble did Bangor fans cause at Stebonheath this season then? What about Park Hall?
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cityblue
Joined: 06 Dec 2007
Posts: 52
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:43 am |
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Well ioio’s prejudice in full display again when he knows that under similar circumstances the history and passion amongst Rhyl fans may under similar circumstances have also seen them overstep the mark. No real surprises too with Leroy who jumps to the a clear view of the nature and extent of any punishment without actually having seen what happened.
And I do not know what you were smoking in Amsterdam Turk but you really should get a grip. The mindless encroachment was carried out by a few not the entire population of Bangor who you turn to insult. Not too sure if it was the same TNS steward who said I should ignore the offensive response, abuse and intimidation my nine year old daughter suffered from some of your supporters as Llanelli were just bad losers but it doesn’t mean I hold all in Llanelli responsible.
However your views should perhaps be ignored as you seem to be jumping to the same “stereotypical” view as you had already unfairly formed about Rhyl fans - I can start to see why they have such a poor view of your club and supporters.
The police will have to rightly consider whether or not criminal offences actually took place as they should do with the assault perpetrated by Rhys Griffiths. The FAW will have to consider what punishment should be exacted for the encroachment of Bangor fans and the besuited idiots from Llanelli.
I apologised to Llanelli players following the match but I doubt whether Nicholas will apologise for his disgraceful cheating instruction he gave to your keeper who at least after the game had the grace to acknowledge what had happened. He also acknowledged that Bangor deserved to win the match and lets’ not forget that it was not the encroachment that cost you the game but the inept display of your managers tactical inability and a poor showing from your “professional” players.
Our gameplan went out of the window with Hoy’s sending off, apologies to Mr Southall – you got it right and I had no cause to question your parentage, however in the end our manager got his tactics and substitutions right. Nev’s views on our supporters are known and appreciated by all at the club and he recognises that the actions of a few do not represent the whole.
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kerz
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:01 am |
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look, nobody should go on the pitch but in a game of that magnitude a 92nd minute equaliser's gonna get emotions riding high. Any supporter worth their salt knows how much that magnificent Sergeant goal actually meant: the cup was on the brink of being lost, and essentially that volley turned the tide again in one of the best Welsh Cup Finals since the LoW began.
We all hope that the child who pushed the keeper is gonna get identified and punished and rightly so but a lot of the current bollocks being spoken is more to do with either people wanting to settle old scores or just being p1ssed off that they lost a very important game of footy.
Is Duncan Roberts off his drip yet by the way? Poor little lamb.
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Red Turk
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 152
Location: Llanelli |
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:24 am |
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Need I say - violence was shown - No room for it in the professional game (sorry Semi-pro)! I don't really care if it was 'glory supports' (cricky Llanelli get enough of them), but ALL supporters know how do behave - right???????????????????? AND YOURS DIDN'T - No room, kicked out of Europe!
As for the game and what happened on the pitch (before the babarians entered the fray) Bangor won fair and square, have no problems with the loss, the league was our MAIN aim and I'm glad we have that now!!! But I'm sorry to say, behaviour counts and if the same happend to us (viceversa), I would be $h1tt1ng myself right now... I hear that it might be taken further if nothing "substancial" arises from the FAW!
Rhyl must be rubbing their hands together (as too Port Toilet)????
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kerz
Joined: 09 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:36 am |
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haha well ya know, we'll see what happens. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Well done on winning the league son but let the police deal with all the violence on the day, including a certain elbowing striker.
When it comes down to it, you have to prove that the lads who went on the pitch were in any way affiliated with Bangor City FC. Maybe they were Llanelli fans, who wanted the game called off after letting in an equaliser, trying to get the other team in trouble now I come to think of it.
Nobody's arguing that what happened was savoury but dealing with it calmly and rationally is the only way forward old bean. And making sure you make a distinction between voiciferous support and a few kids getting on the pitch due in part to inadequate security.
Remember Dida in Europe against Celtic?
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cityblue
Joined: 06 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:40 am |
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Rhyl fans, amongst others, will no doubt rubbing their hands and I would not expect anything else but it does not cause me any concern really.
However, who are 'Port Toilet' - your pathetic dig at Port Talbot is unfair, unwarranted, childish and slur on a club who have progresed so much that they are deserving of some respect. Time you grew up I think.
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PTBLUE
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 31
Location: Port Talbot |
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:20 pm |
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Don't see anything wrong with a pitch invasion myself given the circumstances. Unfortunately, the very small minority who had confrontation with Turk players were out of order but I haven't heard anybody condone their actions. The little kid who pushed the 6' 4"/15 stone keeper over needs to be dealt with as does the fella who went onto Andy Legg(what was said there????). Everyone else was just jubilant from what I could see. The game needs passion like that but one or two overstepped the mark so deal with the one or two.
Kick them out of Europe, really?????
'Port Toilet' fans have never spat in a referee's face after losing a Welsh Cup semi-final.
Up the Town!
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Anglesey Blue
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 49
Location: Bangor |
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:30 pm |
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Exactly. The individuals concerned need to be punished, and could have been dealt with on the day (before the 2nd incident to be fair) had the Police been swift. As it is, this issue is being allowed to drag on and on, as if it's the Bangor City board that's to blame. The club did their best to diffuse the situation, with our club president on the field pleading with the fans to calm down. How many were on the pitch? 10 at most? Half of them were trying to drag others away (made it look worse, but they meant well). So in honesty, we're talking about half a dozen people, with 2-3 of them partaking in a major Football no-no (get involved with the players). Out of a 1,000+ fans, it doesn't seem quite so bad. Doesn't excuse anybody's IDIOTIC behaviour, but some of the reaction i've read is mass hysteria. I know the Professional clubs in this league are trying to improve their image with more kids etc coming to games, but honestly, how much do we want to pacity the game?
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Red Turk
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
Posts: 152
Location: Llanelli |
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:26 pm |
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Lol - I meant no slur or childishness when meantioning Port Talbot as Toilet - it's a local thing, the place stinks to high hell - fact (I pass on M4 EVERYDAY and it is to do with their steel works) and but have a few mates from the area and we all have an adult laugh about it!!! Obviously you don't understand local banter (e.g. Carmarthen are nutters because they have a nut-house etc, etc...)
Perhaps when I make 'slurs' like that you think I'm being vindictive... ANSWER = "I am not and apologise if my local humour is offensice". However, at this present time you will find any fault in what I say to make me look worse than what your colleague did on Sunday... I'm far from that cry!!! lol.
Anyhow, sour-grapes... Na, not in the slightest! I'm too much of gentlemand, conisir and a sportman to understand "whomever players the better 'soccer' wins the trophies"!!! As I have posted on here numerous of times and I have mentioed that or similar too... if you had offered me (as follows) - FAW Prem Cup Final (and a £50k cheque), WPL Winners, League Cup Winners, West Wales Final Loosers and Wales FA Cup Final Loosers... I would have said to you "YES BLOODY PLEASE, WHERE DO I SIGN...."!!!!
Anyway, back to my main point... We banned the 'spitter' from attending any Llanelli games... However, I hope you also follow the same pattern and ban "those brusers, bullies, shalitons & thugs" that brought the Welsh Football into disrepute. Furthermore, I hope you get one of the following (if not all) of the implications on this matter, applied...
*Banned from Europe (for 2008/09 season)
*6 points deducted for next season
*£15k fine (remember Porthmadog had a heavy fine applied for a lesser crime)!!!
But in consistancy, I think one of those from the above will come from your actions...
At least it will add spice to net seasons encounters!
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